Hell is, if you like, I was going to say its where God isnt. Even that isnt true, cause ultimately God will be all in all. But it is as though within Gods all in all-ness, there will be an absence, a loss, the possibility of there being creatures who were once human, but now are not. I dont know what the word where would mean at that point. Cause, I dont know what location is like at that point. And I fail to see why we should speculate about it. I just think its a state of being, of creatures that once were human, once did reflect the image of God, but have chosen to do so no more. And I have to say, people often ask me about this, and I dont like talking about it, partly because I know a great many people and love a great many people, some of whom, as far as I can see are saying precisely that to God. And I shudder to think, of those people saying, I truly dont want to be human. Thank you very much... because they are lovely human beings at the moment, and you can see glimmers of God in them, but how that works out is up to them. So this is not something I talk about readily or happily. I know some Christians who, ah, theres heaven and theres hell. And those guys are going to get it. Thats not what Im saying at all. This is a matter of really a terrifying possibility. And every so often you look in the mirror, and say, hmm. Are you worshipping idols as well. Is that where youre going. Christians have to ask themselves that. It doesnt destroy your assurance, but its a question you need to ask.